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OCTOBER 28, 2009 12:31PM

A wild thought on love and marriage

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What do you think of when you think about marriage?  The institution of marriage.  According to the Merriam-Wesbster online dictionary, institution is defined as:  a significant practice, relationship, or organization in a society or culture.  That doesn’t sound so bad.  Much better than what normally comes to mind (atleast mine) when you think of an institution.  I am thinking about this today because of a message I received from one of the many groups I’ve joined on Facebook.

The message title is Nature knows no marriage. The message is to not take marriage seriously but rather as a joke, because “One starts leaning on the other more. One starts taking the other more for granted. One starts behaving more and more like a wife and like a husband -- not as two human beings, “ when you take it seriously.  The message also talks about marriage being a social institution placed on us to make society feel better because love, which is a natural state, is not accepted and trusted by society perhaps because it is free and something that is free and unbound is not so easy to define and pigeon hole and the unknown is always scary.  Therefore society tells us we must be married and bound to each other, taking responsibility for that love in essence. 

So we marry and do so with all the seriousness we can muster of the solemnity of the occasion and with the weight of taking responsibility for daring to love another being.  Just as a side note, isn’t it funny that some people think gays should not  take their love so seriously yet feel that straight’s are duty and honor bound to do so, but I digress from the train of thought here.

The line that captured my mind though was this “One starts behaving more and more like a wife and like a husband -- not as two human beings”.  I remember reading years ago an article about why marriage is better than two people living together.  It made the point that when you marry you enter into a contract binding you together thereby saying to each other “I’m taking this seriously.  I am committed to you and I can’t just walk away.”  The idea there being that when you are just living together and know the other person can just walk away at any time with no obligation to you that you will always be on your best behavior as will your partner and therefore it is a false relationship because you are both hiding a part of yourself.  It sounded good at the time and it went on to quote statistics of how long married relationships lasted versus “living together” relationships. 

Obviously there are a few potholes in that article and as I started thinking about the statement that once married “One starts behaving more and more like a wife and like a husband -- not as two human beings”, a little light went off in my head.  Yes, it was a scary moment to have inside my head illuminated.  Haha.  Maybe our long held societal beliefs on the importance of marriage is a bunch of hoo-haw.  Maybe we’ve misunderstood what it means to love one another.  Maybe love was never meant to be bound and tied but rather to be free and open.  Perhaps marriage was born out of societies fears of something so free and unbound, and anything born of fear cannot be a good thing.

The message does go on to say that if you marry to make your family happy, then fine, just by all means, do NOT take it seriously.  It’s when we get caught up in what we perceive to be our roles as a married couple by societies standards that we forget why we came together in the first place.  Love, given freely with no expectations.  And if you have expectations, maybe you aren’t really loving.

Just some wild random thoughts I thought I’d throw out there.  What are yours? 

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Marriage is a wild ride. ~R~
Life is a wild ride, Chuck! ;)
Last I checked, Husbands and Wives *were* human beings. Especially since animals and plants don't really marry all that often. And, what's so bad about behaving like a wife versus behaving like a 'human being?' Sounds like someone's advocating free love without the 'constraints' of marriage, which, is not really my personal style, but whatever floats their boats. So, what was your thought upon reading this -- did you think they were right, or nuts?
RavingBits: a little of both I think. Agreed husbands and wives are indeed human beings and there's nothing wrong with behaving as either. My thought here is that we forget that it was love that brought us together and get so caught up in the roles we are playing that the love goes by the wayside. I don't wish to either advocate or tear down marriage or "free love" but to point out that love doesn't require a contract to be real and valid. It just seemed to me that it gets forgotten all too quickly and all too often.
Yes, I will definitely drink to that!! I was a little concerned that the most logical jump would be: marriage (the contract) is total crap because it has nothing to do with love. Which, I suppose, technically -- is true. You don't HAVE to be married to be in love, and you don't HAVE to be in love to get married. So, I suppose I can see how nitpickers could separate them so easily.

There are lots of people out there advocating that marriage is useless, and, well, It's unsettling to those of us who have more traditional values about the concept of promising to blend your life with another person's forever (and yes, I totally think that gays or polys, or whomever should be able to marry -- so long as they take the promise seriously.) Thanks for putting your thoughts out there, wild as they may be!
In my mind the best marriages ARE all about love - because if the love in a marriage is gone, the marriage for all practical purposes, falls apart.
After a half century of living and a few failed attempts at marraige, all I can say about any of this is I haven't a clue. More importantly, the Jazz season opener is tonight. That's about as deep as I can think.
Raving, thanks for reading me.

Bluesurly: I believe most marriages do start out that way full of love. It just struck me that we can become so wrapped up in a role that we start to place all kinds of demands and conditions on each other and forget that love, real love, does not have conditions and rules. When that happens then there is no more love and as you point out then the marriage falls apart.

Cap'n, not sure I really have a clue either, I'm just throwing out some thoughts and seeing what comes back. Go Jazz! :)
Marriage is a human universal. It is originally a child rearing institution. Marriage is optimally based on a romantic (love) monogamous, and most importantly, everlasting pair bond.

Straight or gay, the question will always be: will this love last forever? That is it; anything else is not marriage.

Wonderful post, zashin, thought provoking.

Rated.
"Straight or gay, the question will always be: will this love last forever? That is it; anything else is not marriage." Okay Thoth, but even that question does not require marriage to be answered. ;)
I enjoyed marriage, most of the time. But love....that's the essence! It's all so complex that my mind boggles at the thought. The older I get, the less I understand. But totally Rated!
Ralph, I understand that! The more I learn, the less I know.
I think that two people can live together and still be serious about each other. I grew up in a house where you didn't have to have a piece of paper saying that you committ yourself to the other person-as long as you felt it in your heart and mind, you were as good as married. I can understand that it would be hard to act like yourself if the person can just up and walk away, yet i guess in the end it all just circles back to whether or not two individuals love each other or not.
I think you are right jujujulie. Judging by the divorce rate, being married is obviously no guarantee. Whether you have the piece of paper or not it's the love that makes the difference.